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October 27th - Tournament of Champions for Top All-Time Seed

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:45 am
by dustin
Tuesday October 27th, Tournament of Champions for Top All-Time Seeds

Early zone starts at 7 PM London UK time / 3 PM Eastern time / noon Pacific.

Late zone starts at 3 AM London UK time / 11 PM Eastern time / 8 PM Pacific.

This TOC will consist of 4 consecutive games played by the 6 highest seeded players who turn up at the starting time. There will be 2 starting times, hopefully each with a few brackets.

To clarify, this is based on the highest you have ever been seeded in your Lux career. Your ranking page will have a "(high of Xth)" beside your seed (unless you're at the highest you've ever been right now), and this lifetime high seed is what is used to enter the tournament. If you have ever been seeded in the top 10 then you should show up and you should be able to play.

Show up on time to play. You can compete in either the early or late zone brackets.

The map will start on Classic. Loser picks the next map. 4 games each.

Scoring is as follows (for each game):
8 points for 1st place
5 points for 2nd place
4 points for 3rd place
3 points for 4th place
2 points for 5th place
1 point for 6th place

The player with the most points in each room will be declared the winner of their TOC.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:22 pm
by Tstering
Dustin, I think you mean for the Early Zone that it will be 8PM London UK time and not 8am!

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:13 pm
by mazza
LOVE the idea of a late start, i actually may be able to make that.....

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:52 am
by Tstering
Hi Dustin, can I confirm something please. You say loser picks the next map. By loser do you mean 6th place player as obviously there are technically 5 losers in each game?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:58 pm
by dustin
Yes, it's the 6th place player that chooses the next map.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:10 pm
by dustin
The early edition is supposed to start now, but so far we're short on high-seeded players...

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:20 pm
by Tstering
8pm GMT is in 40 minutes from now!

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:31 pm
by dustin
Looks like daylights savings screwed us again!

I'll start another room at 8pm UK time if we get enough high seeds then.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:26 pm
by Digital Jihad
Results for game number 961038: ✱
✱ +105 for player BotOfDoom. Now at 584 ✱
✱ +30 for player SnyperEye. Now at 595 ✱
✱ +13 for player Tstering. Now at 632 ✱
✱ -22 for player Claudiu. Now at 770 ✱
✱ -16 for player CyNd3r. Now at 617 ✱
✱ -50 for player dustin. Now at 450 ✱

October27th-Tournment of Champion for Top All-Time Seed

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:57 pm
by Samuel99
LOLOLOL

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:07 pm
by dustin
The early zone TOC is complete. We had 2 players drop out after 2 games, so me and BotOfDoom filled in.

Congrats to the High Seeds Early TOC Winner <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... stering</a> !!!

The early zone results:
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... stering</a> has a total of 19 points in 4 games. Final score of: 5.15
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Claudiu</a> has a total of 17 points in 4 games. Final score of: 4.65
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... yperEye</a> has a total of 16 points in 4 games. Final score of: 4.4
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... >CyNd3r</a> has a total of 12 points in 4 games. Final score of: 3.4

Did not finish 4 games:
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... tOfDoom</a> has a total of 9 points in 2 games. Final score of: 4.7
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... oundboy</a> has a total of 7 points in 2 games. Final score of: 3.7
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... >dustin</a> has a total of 6 points in 2 games. Final score of: 3.2
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... ars-Hat</a> has a total of 6 points in 2 games. Final score of: 3.2

<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #960991</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/Classic">Classic</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... yperEye</a>
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #961024</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/Roman Empire II">Roman Empire II</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... stering</a>
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #961038</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/WWII Tanks - Afrika Korp">WWII Tanks - Afrika Korp</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... tOfDoom</a>
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #961066</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/Castle Lux - The Last King">Castle Lux - The Last King</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Claudiu</a>

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:14 pm
by Claudiu
Congratulations to Tstering. I'm lucky to have gotten 2nd, altough it looks like the bot got more points than me.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:18 pm
by Tstering
Really enjoyed it, it was great fun, but I did have a bit of luck that helped me win. I should have got 2nd in Rome really and 6th in Afrika. But I'm not going to complain, there is always a bit of luck that comes into play with these things.

Letting the bot win a game was a bit embarassing for us all though :D

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:30 pm
by dustin
The late edition TOC starts at: 3 AM London UK time / 11 PM Eastern time / 8 PM Pacific.

Hope to see you there...

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:20 am
by Dominator
Well, this was the higlight of the A room:

hoodie: is MC Baden wearing baden pants?
hoodie: http://www.bolgernow.com/blog/wp-conten ... ds/2009/10
hoodie: I bought 12 Badens for $50
hoodie: I know, but I figured I'd donate a few to charity
hoodie: so I could have had 36 badens for $50?
hoodie: shhhhhhh
hoodie: it is
hoodie: underground flaming baden trading ring
hoodie: don't be cruel to your badens though!
hoodie: you need to water and lux them
hoodie: every 10th baden, you get a free harpo!
hoodie: it's best to plant your baden in may; a kswiss may sprout come august
hoodie: Digital Jihad: Nazi Baden
hoodie: DJ!
hoodie: it's 10 PM here
hoodie: :P
hoodie: lol Mazza still was able to move
hoodie: night lantern
hoodie: shit, what are we going to do for light?
hoodie: if Lantern is gone?
hoodie: Micella apparently hugged the crap outta Mazza's kid
∞ hoodie sends micella to go hug the crap outta baden ∞
hoodie: You can never get the mystery that is Baden.
hoodie: lol I would make no sense whatsoever
hoodie: mmmmmm... pathetic meat
hoodie: is that like poor man's bacon?
hoodie: we've been going at it with baden for 46 rounds?

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:42 am
by mazza
Na, i think the highlight was Dustin rsing the castle game after bout 75 rounds......



And playin for 3.5 hrs to complete 4 games....that was a real highlight

Whew......



/me goes to get a beer

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:02 am
by dustin
Congrats to the TOC B room winner <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Lantern</a> !!!

B room results:
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Lantern</a> has a total of 25 points in 4 games. Final score of: 6.65
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/Digital Jihad">Digital Jihad</a> has a total of 21 points in 4 games. Final score of: 5.65
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Tracker</a> has a total of 15 points in 4 games. Final score of: 4.15
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... orJesus</a> has a total of 14 points in 4 games. Final score of: 3.9
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/Mike">Mike</a> has a total of 9 points in 4 games. Final score of: 2.65
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/Baden">Baden</a> has a total of 8 points in 4 games. Final score of: 2.4

Games played:
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #961263</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/Classic">Classic</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Lantern</a>
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #961268</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/Classic">Classic</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Tracker</a>
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #961286</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/Castle Lux - The Last King">Castle Lux - The Last King</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/Digital Jihad">Digital Jihad</a>
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #961292</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/Classic">Classic</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Lantern</a>

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:04 am
by dustin
The A room had five all-time #1 seeds, and one all-time #2 seed. It was an epic contest!

Congrats to the All-Time High Seeds Winner ... <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Manimal</a> !!!

A room results:
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Manimal</a> has a total of 20 points in 4 games. Final score of: 5.4
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/Mazza">Mazza</a> has a total of 17 points in 4 games. Final score of: 4.65
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... eetroot</a> has a total of 15 points in 4 games. Final score of: 4.15
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/Big Will E Style">Big Will E Style</a> has a total of 14 points in 4 games. Final score of: 3.9
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... scoffee</a> has a total of 14 points in 4 games. Final score of: 3.9
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/3DA">3DA</a> has a total of 12 points in 4 games. Final score of: 3.4

Games finished:
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #961272</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/Classic">Classic</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/Mazza">Mazza</a>
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #961318</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/Cube Wars">Cube Wars</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... eetroot</a>
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #961320</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/Classic">Classic</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Manimal</a>
<a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/ ... #961326</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/maps/Classic">Classic</a> - <a href="http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/user/ ... Manimal</a>

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:49 am
by Tstering
Congratulations to Manimal and Lantern for their wins. Surprised both of those grouped played 3 lots of classic though!

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:48 am
by beetroot
we actually played a game of castles too.... but you rs'ed it

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:54 am
by 3DA
Alright. I don't bitch frequently in the forums, but I figure I've got at least one "bitch for free" card and I'm playing it now.

I'm going to try and be constructive about this.

We play for two solid hours on a huge, complicated map with settings actively chosen to prevent killing for cards. 20-something rounds go by in which nobody does anything but farm. Then - there are 10 rounds of solid action, in which I spend most of them beating the crap out of Big Will (apologies, Will, but it was working). I had good position and a small army lead. There were four players alive at that point, each with over 40,000 armies. I sit and fortify up for ONE ROUND and the game gets restarted. After two solid hours - with ABSOLUTELY NO WARNING. A restart had been discussed earlier, but easily fifteen rounds had gone by since that was brought up - and one player was killed in those fifteen rounds. The game was progressing.

I get stuck with two starts on the classic map that have me going last, and nomading. Extremely difficult to win from that position. Anyone who's played a lot will know that you basically need someone else to miss a kill and lay 4 cards at your feet in order to get back in the game. In the second of these games I get halfed TWICE, and ultimately finished off - not for second, mind you, but for third place.

So we can distinguish between me bitching about bad luck and me bitching about holes in the way the tournament was run, let me list the things I'm not bitching about, and chalking up to bad luck/relaxed atmosphere/etc.

1. Getting killed while turtling in the first game for my one card. Someone was about to go to five cards, the game was marathonning - understandable.
2. Getting aced in the Cube Wars game early and in a questionable play. It was probably a bad play, but the person ended up winning and I decidedly did not play that one well.
3. Blatant and deliberate playing for place in the third game that landed me irrevocably in second when there was a chance - slim, perhaps, but a palpable chance - that I could have won.
4. My two bad starts. Were that the only thing that happened, I would easily be able to walk away saying I got screwed - but that happens sometimes in games where chance is a factor.

What I'm here bitching about are people's choices. There were a number of them that really made the room I was in not very fun.

Congrats to Mani for his win. He played well, as usual.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:09 am
by Tstering
beetroot wrote:we actually played a game of castles too.... but you rs'ed it
I'm not Dustin :D I didn't restart it lol.

Reading what 3DA wrote it does seem fairly bad form to restart a map even if it was marathoning with out a bit of prior warning. Maybe something along the lines of 'This game will be restarted in 15 rounds if is not over'.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:51 am
by mazza
Ok 3DA, i know that some of your criticism is pointed to me, and i totally understand WHY you are bitching about them, if I was in your position, i would be too....Yes, i did play for 3rd in that 3rd game, and did try and kill you in the last, once i was blatantly lined up myself, for 3rd again. But, i do have reasons, and seeing you have started this, I will gladly tell you what my reasons were. In both games, there was a turtle at play, and I was one of 3 peeps who had many more armies......in both games i was last in the card order, therefore, last to cash. In both games, i was lined up to be killed the next shot. Seeing it is a 4 game tourney, and i had gotten a win already, i had a number in my mind of how many points i needed to get a medal, and went for that amount of points......by killing 2 turtles, who, agreed, had bad starts, but hey, im not gonna lose a medal coz someone turtles, when i have got to 250+ armies by workni the board and gettin lucky cashes on 3 a couple of times, but then havin my luck run out......


This kind of practice i have seen EVERY time there is a weekly chase on; it is ugly then, like it was ugly today, but hey, that is what the games are about. You could say, i too, got a hard ride in the castle game when 3 or 4 others ganged up on me coz i was the army leader, and cut me down to nothing...... i was turtlin in cube wars too, and u went and killed me for 6th, when u couldve cut Beetroot's income down THAT shot - i had no income coz u hit me early, i was turtling, and u used your armies to cut me down, when i was no threat to anyone, whilst u let the strongest in the game keep all of his income, and i did not complain, even though i didnt agree with what you were doing.

I agree totally with you that it was likely that you had the castle game won; i had my money on you, you had the army lead by a bit, plus a huge income to boot, but from Dustin's reasoning, it was because you didn't do anything constructrive with your turn, that is why he restarted the game.....


I dont want to argue with you at all, we have words every now and then , but i always make it publicly known that you are one of my most favourite players in all of lux John; i love playin against you and chattin to you, and laughing with you, and yes, i agree that my moves were not of the best ilk, but after 3.5 hours playin 5 games ( well, 4 and a half), there weree always going to be some questionable moves.....do you not remeber how Beetroot plainly played for 2nd in the 1st game, givin me a win, and how Hearts did not attack Beets income in cube wars to give him the game, i mean, that was some intense shit out there today; we had 5 top seeded players of all time, plus a number 2 in myself; the games were always goin to be intense affairs, and because u had 6 good players all playin in 1 room, the games were always goin to be decided by a level of asshattery, as most preliminary moves in the game were made correctly, leavin the games very evenly spread in the initial rounds....leading to semi or full marathons, leading to ugly finishes.....it was always goin to be on the cards.....so, yes, i made some moves that generally would be frowned upon, but have received this treatment myself in many games over luxtober, as im sure many players have over the month of the tournament. A strange thing happens when medals are up for grabs...why do u think so many atheletes risk takin performance enhancing drugs???


Congratulations to Manimal and Lantern, as well as Tserting for winning the respective rooms, thoroughly deserved in a room of madness Manimal, you have come back to lux in the same manner as you left; a ruthless killer of men...well played, I learnt a few things out there today, and yes, a public apology to you 3DA on how my moves made your day that lil worse than it already was....to a point it was bad form, yes, but in a point based tounrey of 4 games, certain tactics are used to gain certain results; wrong on my behalf, perhaps, but i wasnt the only one playin kind of strange; there were many interesting moves and blocks and so forth goin on out there......

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:13 am
by drSnuggles
Congrats all!

Many thanks for the hilarious conversation especially in the All-Time High Seeds room. I haven't laughed that much for a long time and was kinda forced to not go to bed. :D

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:08 am
by 3DA
Meh, I'm sorry for posting all that crap and gumming up another perfectly good thread. I'm not going to un-post it, because I was legitimately pissed - but, of course, with a little bit of sleep and some perspective I don't give a crap anymore. :smt023

SO - apologies, Mazza, for marring your win. You played well and you actually are an extremely conscientious player. And apologies to y'all reading this thread and being bummed out that someone took the time to spread some more dark shadows. Silly, really.

Alright - I've used my one "bitch in the forums" card for this year. Officially shutting up now. :D

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:20 am
by WhirlPlaid
1. Congrats to Manimal, Lantern and Tstering!!!! Good work fellas.

2. Congrats to both 3DA and Mazza for hashing it out in both a logical and friendly manner. I am most impressed with Mazza's self defense and even more impressed with 3DA's genuine acceptance.

Kudo's to all

WP

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:31 am
by nimrod7
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:00 pm
by Lantern
Thank you all!!

There was nothing B about our room!

well except mabye baden... his name starts with b.


I would have like beetroot to be in the "b" room however.

:p

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:43 pm
by Digital Jihad
When do we get our trophies? :smt023

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:46 pm
by The Silken Knot
Yes, many congratulations to you all! Such an exalted group... :D