The moderation this past Sunday...
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:34 pm
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I fully agree with this. It is a bad situation when you chase yourself and have to mod - this is really a damn bad feeeling. I myself had a very tough weekend (sports accident in real life; angle broken + complex ligaments rupture), played some games and suddenly found myself in the chase involeved. My intention was to play some games and have fun that evening - but the evening (i am in european time zone) continued to be hell rather. Murphys Law always tells you that there is modding needed when you just want to enjoy some games as player. Unfortunately there was no other mod present at that moment to judge completely uninvolved.The Silken Knot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:41 pmIt's always going to be difficult when the only mod is also chasing
After the guest host already restarted of a 5 human FH game you suggested a further restart of a FH game with 6 humans as consequence? Great idea! I should add that option to the poll ?RogueMonk wrote:Like, the game couldn't even have been restarted. Wowsers.
If the game was as you described above, I don't really understand what the issue is. If controleola had made a move that had spent a lot of armies, strategically hurt himself, or put himself at risk of losing the game simply to go after george, this would be a different story. Did any of those things happen? Maybe I am missing something in this equation.GFips wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:54 amI fully agree with this. It is a bad situation when you chase yourself and have to mod - this is really a damn bad feeeling. I myself had a very tough weekend (sports accident in real life; angle broken + complex ligaments rupture), played some games and suddenly found myself in the chase involeved. My intention was to play some games and have fun that evening - but the evening (i am in european time zone) continued to be hell rather. Murphys Law always tells you that there is modding needed when you just want to enjoy some games as player. Unfortunately there was no other mod present at that moment to judge completely uninvolved.The Silken Knot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:41 pmIt's always going to be difficult when the only mod is also chasing
To give everybody some transparancy of what happened that chase:
After a break caring my leg I came back before the reset and we really had some great games going on. In the last game before the reset, George was 1 point in front of me. George took Canada and protected it with 1. He moved his men out of RUS and told Controleola who was in US: "please don't asshat me in CAN. I left RUS for you". Controleola hit George nevertheless that turn (telling that he won’t let "hold weak protected income"). As taking US was already costly for George his game was ruined. Chessarrayxp (maybe as a result, else it would be a comparable move but even over several turns) was hitting my only FE income from now on every turn and so George finally ended 6th and I ended up "luckily" 5th in that game, while Controleola won this game. Unfortunately that decided the chase to me. Not at all they way I want to win a week.
It was a strange move by Controleola as it decided the chase. George was complaining already over the day, that Controleola would target him (but none of the other involved players did really confirm it to me when i asked them and i have not watched that games myself).
So directly after the game I handed out George a weekly 1st place medal as consequence of the situation and addressed the fact to other mods in the modlounge for further discussion. I told him that everything else will be under investigation afterwards behind the scenes.
I personaly think it was an unsportsmen move of Controleola and it was unfair versus George as he knew George was in the chase for the first place (maybe a very little bit comparable situaton as when in formula one other drivers are involved in the fight about the race win). On the other hand Controleola was also in the top 10 and fighting for places. I asked if all others agree with a restart, but beside George no one answered with a yes. Claudiu was also in the chase and fighting for a medal. So I decided to not restart that game and handed out George a weekly 1st place medal instead, as i thought this would be fair. It was obviously an unsportsmen move, but i don’t think that single move was really against the rules. Controleola justified that move with aggressiv play (and to be honest it was rewarded as he won this game).
Nevertheless there will be further investigations about other actions of Controleola in previous games. Targeting another player over several games is strictly forbidden and will take consequences in case. There were reports about him and if other players will confirm that, it will lead to a penalty. But that long it is still „in dubio pro reo“. I am strictly against a rapid prejudgement just because a player has an history of previous asshating. I may remember, it is you TSK, who even requests an amnesty for this players restrictions of hosting (telling me that this player was treated unfair in past) - but now you attack me that i did not immidiatly suspend him for a game you did not even watch yourself?
I am personally really sorry, that game moderation is actually not that perfect and often too slow in actions. Some mods (me included) do not always find the time needed. Some mods seem not to be present at the moment. But we all have a real life too and do this as volunteers. We are humans - so don't be to harsh with us. With PJB Dustin has established another mod with fresh blood for a betterment of the situation.
I am sorry for you George what happened to you that day. I really did not want to win the chase that way. I can fully understand that you are upset about Controleolas action. But it is also strange that the most crying people are people who were not even directly involved themself.
In addition I think there are many many other problems that needed also to be discussed (e.g. place killing in chase games, restarting of FH games when a player has left and so on. many more things). I encourage you all to help the mod squad so that everybody can have fun with this great game.