Mafia XII Game Thread - Yakuza

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Post by MissChaos » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:24 pm

MissChaos wrote:I am staying with my vote for helen. I think it is strange Odelay defended Grozoth AND just said that both mafia and yakuza hit *Manimal...why would he assume that unless he knew? I think helen is the current godfather and Odelay is her biatch. Or the other way around. :lol:
If I'm wrong, I apologise, but there's absolutely no reason for Maw to say she's the doctor, no reason at all. It's more likely helen is lying about being a doctor and that she is actually a mafia or yakuza, than there being two doctors in the game.

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Post by djdee » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:27 pm

I will change my vote to Helen as instructed.

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Post by Odelay » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:27 pm

I agree there aren't two doctors... but who is who I have no idea at this point...

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Post by MaW1028 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:28 pm

What would be my advantage of just claiming randomly I'm the doctor?

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Post by Odelay » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:32 pm

Hmm... well 50/50 odds here so Helen it is.

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Post by Big Will E Style » Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:57 pm

I am so confused...

Helen it is

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Post by helen » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:42 pm

I am the doctor and here's what I did:

the first night, i protected myself

the second night, I tried to reprotect myself because there was no other real info. to run on--that and the fact that I forgot about rule #vi (page 1) so techinically, i didn't protect anyone.

third night I forgot to send in a name BUT NO ONE DIED. So what seems to have happened was Eno protected me on default, for not sending in a name while the mafia just happened to strike me.

Since I outted myself as doctor, the mafia would probably kill me by the next day anyway.

I just thought i'd throw in these tidbits before ya'll kill me.

so who did you "protect", maw?

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Post by Enokrad » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:43 pm

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Post by helen » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:46 pm

right on time.


helen ascends into another corner of the forums

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Post by Enokrad » Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:35 pm

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Post by Shockandawe » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:33 pm

Looks like Maw's our girl here.

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Post by CyNd3r » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:03 pm

My vote goes to MAW.

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Post by heartscoffee » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:17 pm

Hmmmmmm

I'll vote MaW for being a big fat liar!

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Post by MaW1028 » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:29 pm

Guys, I'm seriously another doctor. What would be my point of saying I'm the doctor over helen if I am the mafia? That'd be calling myself out. I AM the doctor. Please do not vote against me because then both doctors will be out. I pray the sheriff inspected me so that I can prove I am indeed a doctor.

I vote hearts for calling me a liar...

I DID NOT LIE

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Post by CyNd3r » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:34 pm

Hmmmm. It just seems highly improbable that their are two doctors.

.... And if you are mafia the reason you would call helen a liar about being a doctor... I would guess that it is some desperate attempt to kill off the doctor since the mafia is getting crushed right now.

I'm sorry maw but it seems highly unlikely that their are two doctors.

What does everyone else think??

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Post by heartscoffee » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:42 pm

MaW1028 wrote: I pray the sheriff inspected me so that I can prove I am indeed a doctor.
WELL, I'm guessing that didn't happen since he was killed last night.... probably by you.

I really do not think there are two doctors. It sounds like a Yakuza plan to me. And coming from Mandy it is almost believable.

But I'm not buying what you are selling MaW!

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Post by The Wontrob » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:22 pm

Simply devil's advocate...

Why is it so hard to believe there are two doctors when there are two groups of mafia?

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Post by Big Will E Style » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:45 pm

I thought there were one mafia and one yakuza? I don't know what to think. MaW seems fishy, but I can't imagine her straight up lying :?

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Post by heartscoffee » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:14 pm

Ok well I don't think there are, BUT there might be two doctors. :?

The questions is.... Do you guys think it is worth the risk to keep her alive?

I think No.

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Post by djdee » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:19 pm

I think there might have been 2 doctors. We need to give MAW the benefit of the doubt for now as we cannot afford to kill another and we have a definate Mafia/Yakuza in Odelay.
Odelay wrote:Well I assume she protected Mani last night, thats why no one died. It appears both the Mob and the Yaku made the same hit. So she should be able to protect herself tonight and stay in. No reason to kill her off today if we can potentially kill a mobster or Yaku.
This proves Odelay he is mafia or yakuza. The doctor, mafia and yakuza, are the only people who know who they targetted on night 3. MAW confirmed she protected *manimal only after Odelay said that. He then has to have been mafia/yakuza to know that it was *manimal.

I pmed MAW and she told me she had had no contact with Odelay and so he could not have known from her.

This does not guarantee MAW is a doctor, but makes it pretty likely. It does guarantee Odelay as mafia or Yakuza.

I vote Odelay

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Post by Odelay » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:33 pm

I vote for djd
*Manimal wrote:I will also vote SnyperEye, as I have been given hunches.
*Manimal wrote:Obviously it's not weird nobody was killed last night, after I correctly advised to kill Snype and he turned out to be yakuza. I have no other important information to share today, however, so I will just follow the norm and kill Helen
What more information do you need to know that the mob or yaku would put a hit on him, He advised us on a solid kill, and that night no one dies... give me a break. Helen said she didn't protect anyone that night, so that gives maw a thread of credibility, whe could also be using my explanation on what I though happened against me. At this point I don't know what the hell is going on but We need out deputy to inspect Maw before we out her, and if she is who she says she is, then they can contact each other.

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Post by djdee » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:40 pm

Except it was wontrob who started the vote on Snyper not mani. I for one did not see that mani was the obvious target. And I definately did not know Manimal was the target of the mafia/yakusa.

I pmed *manimal before he died and he confirmed the conversations he had had with MAW, making me believe her.

Also you are quick to vote for me for no reason. This just strikes me as a desperate attempt to save yourself from an obvious mistake.

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Post by Odelay » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:47 pm

The only mistake I have made is being a vocal player, I am a plain old innocent. I voted for you because you so quick to put me on the chopping block,

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Post by djdee » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:56 pm

no Odelay the mistake you made was forgetting that no one else knew who the mafia and yakusa had targeted. You stated that *manimal was the person targeted. There is no way you could have known that.

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Post by heartscoffee » Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:17 pm

Well I personally don't think Odelay is Mafia or Yakuza. I thought he was making some good points. When mani voted for snype I thought he did a pretty good job disguising himself... but saying he had hunches AND being correct sorta put a target on him. So I don't think it was strange that Odelay pointed it out.

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Post by beetroot » Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:32 pm

i vote Odelay

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Post by MissChaos » Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:03 pm

I think this is difficult, I really think that MaW is the second doctor, and I don't want to kill her. But, on the other hand; I don't have any evidence on anyone else. If MaW is the doctor I don't want to take part in killing her, so for that reason only I will have to make a random vote; sorry mazza...but you have my vote!

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Post by MaW1028 » Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:20 pm

Goodness Gracious Hearts!!! I am the second doctor. Would I be SO stupid to say "no I'm the doctor" because Helen claimed she is? I think that's unlikely. That would be such a great move by me (sarcasm). I thought Helen was lying because I didn't think there were 2 doctors, just like yall. If you really want to kill ANOTHER doctor, please vote for me, but if you want to win... I suggest you don't kill me...


And Hearts, whatever the sheriff found out, I think the information he gathered goes to the deputy, if I'm not mistaken?[/list]

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Post by heartscoffee » Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:28 pm

Ok well I have a question for you then.... Why did you not protect Mani again last night? I believe the rules only say you can not protect yourself two nights in a row...

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Post by Dominator » Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:50 pm

I vote MaW

I just think the mafia/yakuza are trying to pull a fast one here and hearts brings up a good point about protecting *manimal.

Its also fishy that she wasn't targeted by at least one of the families.

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