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The Argument Against Hillary

Post by Drifter » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:29 pm

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Before Hillary Clinton
After Hillary Clinton

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Abkhazia

In 2009, more and more nations began recognizing the independence of this nation that broke away from Georgia and successfully repelled a U.S.-supported Georgian invasion in 2008.

Clinton pressured Vanuatu and Tuvalu to break off diplomatic relations with Abkhazia in 2011. The State Department pressured the governments of India, Germany, and Spain to refuse to recognize the validity of Abkhazian passports and, in violation of the US-UN Treaty, refused to permit Abkhazian diplomats to visit UN headquarters in New York. The Clinton State Department also threatened San Marino, Belarus, Ecuador, Bolivia, Cuba, Somalia, Uzbekistan, and Peru with recriminations if they recognized Abkhazia. Georgia was connected to Clinton through the representation of Georgia in Washington the Podesta Group, headed by Tony Podesta, the brother of Mrs. Clinton’s close friend and current campaign chairman John Podesta.


Argentina

Under President Nestor Kirchner and his wife Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, Argentina’s economy improved and the working class and students prospered.

After former president Nestor Kirchner’s sudden death in 2010, the U.S. embassy in Buenos Aires became a nexus for anti-Kirchner activities, including the fomenting of political and labor protests against the government. Meanwhile, Clinton pressed Argentina hard on its debt obligations to the IMF, also crippling the economy.

Bolivia

Bolivia’s progressive president Evo Morales, the country’s first indigenous Aymara leader, provided government support to the country’s coca farmers and miners. Morales also committed his government to environmental protection. He kept his country out of the Free Trade Area of the Americas and helped start the Peoples’ Trade Agreement with Venezuela and Cuba.

Clinton permitted the U.S. embassy in La Paz to stir up separatist revolts in four mostly European-descent Bolivian provinces, as well as foment labor strikes among miners and other workers in the same model used in Venezuela.

Brazil

Brazil’s progressive presidents, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva and Dilma Rousseff, ushered in a new era for the country, with workers’ and students; rights at forefront and environmental protection and economic development for the poor major priorities.

Clinton’s authorization of massive electronic spying from US embassy in Brasilia and consulate general in Rio de Janeiro resulted in a “constitutional coup” against Rousseff and the Workers’ Party government, ushering in a right-wing, CIA-supported corrupt government.

Central African Republic

Under President Francois Bozize, the CAR remained relatively calm under a peace agreement hammered out under the auspices of Muammar Qaddafi’s Libya.

In 2012, Islamist terrorists of the Seleka movement and supported by Saudi Arabia conducted an uprising, massacring Christians and riving Bozize’s government from power. The CAR became a failed state under Clinton’s State Department.

Ecuador

Ecuador began sharing its oil wealth with the people and the economy and the plight of the nation’s poor improved.

Clinton authorized a 2010 National Police coup against President Rafael Correa. The economy soon plunged as labor disputes wracked the mining and oil sectors.

Egypt


Under Hosni Mubarak, Egypt was a stable secular nation that suppressed jihadist politics in the mosques. The jihadist-oriented Muslim Brotherhood was kept at bay.

After Clinton’s 2011 “Arab Spring” and the toppling of Mubarak, Egypt saw Mohamed Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood elected president. Immediately, the secular country began a process of Islamization with Christian Copts experiencing repression and violence, including massacres. Morsi’s rule resulted in a military coup, thus ending Egypt’s previous moves toward democracy.


Germany

The nation was a peaceful country where German culture, as well as religious freedom and women’s rights were guaranteed.

Clinton’s “Arab Spring” eventually resulted in a flood of mainly Muslim refugees being welcomed into Germany from the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia. Today, Germany is wracked by Muslim refugee street crime, unsanitary and harmful public health habits of migrants, sexual assaults by migrant men of women and children, increased acts of terrorism, and a diminution of German culture and religious practices.

Greece

Greece was a nation that saw government safety net social services extended to all in need. It also remained a top tourist destination for northern Europeans.

The 2010 debt crisis emaciated the Greek economy and Clinton remained adamant that Greece comply with draconian economic measures dictated by Germany, the European Union, and the IMF/World Bank. Making matters worse, Clinton’s “Arab Spring” eventually resulted in a flood of mainly Muslim refugees being welcomed into first, the Greek isles, and then mainland Greece, from the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia. Today, Greece, especially the islands of Lesbos, Chios, Samos, Symi, Rhodes, Leros, and Kos, are wracked by Muslim refugee crime, unsanitary public health habits of migrants, sexual assaults by migrant men of women and children, acts of arson and vandalism, and a diminution of Greek culture and religious practices.


Guatemala

Under President Alvaro Colom, the nation’s first populist progressive president, the poor received access to health, education, and social security.

Clinton authorized the U.S. embassy in Guatemala to work against the 2011 election as president of Colom’s wife, Sandra Torres. Colom was succeeded by a right-wing corrupt president who resigned for corruption and then was arrested.

Haiti


Haiti was prepared in 2011 to re-elect Jean-Bertrand Aristide, forced out of office and into exile in a 2004 CIA coup. The prospects of Artistide’s return to power was a blessing for the slum dwellers of Haiti.

Clinton refused to allow Aristide to return to Haiti from exile in South Africa until it was too late for him to run in the 2011 election. Under a series of U.S.-installed presidents, all approved by Bill and Hillary Clinton, Haiti is a virtual cash cow for the Clintons. The Clinton Foundation diverted for its own use, international aid to Haiti, and the Clintons ensured that their wealthy friends in the hotel, textile, and construction businesses landed lucrative contracts for Haitian projects, none of which have benefited the Haitian poor and many of which resulted in sweat shops and extremely low wage labor practices.

Honduras


Emergent multi-party democracy with a populist progressive president, Manuel Zelaya. Children received free education, poor children received free school meals, interest rates were reduced, and the poorest families were given free electricity.

Clinton authorized a military coup d’etat against Zelaya in 2009. Clinton family “fix-it” man Lanny Davis became a public relations flack for the military dictatorship. Resulting fascist dictatorship involved in extrajudicial death squad killings of journalists, politicians, and indigenous leaders followed the “constitutional coup” against Zelaya. During 2012, Clinton ordered U.S. embassy in Tegucigalpa to work against 2013 election of Xiomara Castro de Zelaya as president.

Iraq


Under Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, Iraq experienced small moves toward an accommodation with the Kurds of the north and Sunnis. Iran acted as a moderating political force in the country that deterred any attempts by Saudi-supported jihadis to disrupt the central government in Baghdad.

Clinton’s Arab Spring resulted in the rise of the Sunni/Wahhabist Islamic State in northern and western Iraq and Iraq’s plunge into failed state status. Shi’as, Kurds, Yazidis, Assyrian Christians, and moderate Sunnis were massacred by the jihadis in northern, western, and central Iraq. The Iraqi cities of Mosul, Kirkuk, and Nineveh fell to ISIL forces with non-Muslims being raped, tortured, and executed and priceless antiquities being destroyed by the marauding jihadists.

Kosovo

Kosovo, which became independent in 2008, initially granted its Serbian minority in northern Kosovo and Metohija some degree of self-government.

In 2009, Kosovo increasingly became a state ruled by criminal syndicates and terrorists of the former Kosovo Liberation Army. The rights of Serbs were increasingly marginalized and Kosovo became a prime recruiting ground for jihadist guerrillas in Arab countries subjected to Clinton’s “Arab Spring” operations, including Libya and Syria. Clinton pressured states receiving U.S. aid and other U.S. allies to recognize Kosovo’s independence. These included Pakistan, Palau, Maldives, St. Kitts-Nevis, Dominica, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Burundi, East Timor, Haiti, Chad, Gambia, Brunei, Ghana, Kuwait, Ivory Coast, Gabon, St. Lucia, Benin, Niger, Guinea, Central African Republic, Andorra, Oman, Guinea-Bissau, Qatar, Tuvalu, Kiribati, Honduras, Somalia, Djibouti, Vanuatu, Swaziland, Mauritania, Malawi, New Zealand, Dominican Republic, Jordan, Bahrain, and Comoros. In the Kosovo capital of Pristina, there is a 10-foot-high statue of Bill Clinton standing over Bill Clinton Boulevard. Not far away is a women’s clothing store called “Hillary.”


Libya


Under Muammar Qaddafi, post-sanction Libya saw a boom in urban construction and a new major international airport to serve as a hub for Africa. Plans announced for an African dinar, supported by Libyan gold holdings, to serve the needs of Africa. All Libyans received free education and medical care. There was a program for revenue sharing of Libya’s oil wealth with the Libyan people.

Clinton’s 2011 regime change operations against Qaddafi, which saw the Libyan leader sodomized, beaten, and shot in the head by U.S.-supervised jihadist rebels, resulted in Clinton laughing about the incident in the infamous, “We came, we saw, he died” comment. Libya became a failed state where Islamic jihadist terrorists vied for control of the country and Qaddafi’s arm caches were given or sold to jihadist terrorists in Syria, Iraq, Egypt, the pan-Sahel region, and sub-Saharan Africa. After Qaddafi’s ouster, black African guest workers and their families were massacred by jihadist forces.

Malaysia


Malaysia, before 2009, was a religiously tolerant nation where Buddhists, Christians, and Hindus enjoyed freedom of religion.

In 2009, Najib Razak became prime minister and he began accepting bribes from Saudi Arabia that totaled some $2.6 billion with additional Malaysian public money in Razak’s personal bank accounts plus the Saudi cash totaling some $3.5 billion. Razak began allowing Saudi-influenced clerics to push for sharia law throughout Malaysia and Christians in Sarawak, Sabah, and Penang began experiencing Wahhabist repression. Clinton was silent about Malaysian persecution of non-Muslims. The reason may have been a reported several hundred million donation from Razak’s slush fund into the Clinton Foundation’s coffers.

Palestine

In 2012, Palestine was granted non-member observer status in the United nations. The 2009 Goldstone Report of the UN found that Israel violated international humanitarian law in its war against Gaza in 2009. Palestine was gaining more support and sympathy internationally and was successfully putting to rest Israeli propaganda disinformation.

Hillary Clinton rejected the Goldstone Report as “one-sided.” Clinton’s unbridled support for expanding Israeli settlements in the West Bank and east Jerusalem and its silence on the dehumanizing Israeli blockade of Gaza, emboldened Israel’s theocratic right-wing government to further encroach on Palestinian territories and cementing into place an apartheid-like series of Palestinian “Bantustans” in the West Bank and an open-air ghetto in Gaza.


Paraguay

The country under Fernando Lugo began lifting out of poverty the nation’s rural campesinos and urban workers. Paraguay also began a steady move toward democratization after years of military dictatorships.

Clinton’s 2012 “constitutional coup” against Fernando Lugo brought back into power the military-industrial oligarchy with the nation’s campesinos being forced back into poverty and repressive rule.

South Sudan

Prior to independence in 2011, South Sudan, while rife with intra-tribal feuding, was relatively calm.

After being rushed into indepenence from Sudan in 2011, South Sudan, a special project of Clinton, George Soros, and actor George Clooney, descended into civil war and chaos. It beat all records in being transformed from a newly-independent state into a failed state.

Syria

Syria was a multi-cultural and multi-religious secular state championing the concept of pan-Arab socialism and progressive policies advanced by Egypt’s Gamal Abdel Nasser. Syria was not a safe place for jihadism.

After Clinton’s 2011 green light for the “Arab Spring,” Syria became a failed state where the Islamic State gained a firm foothold. Minority Alawites, Christians, Druze, and Kurds were massacred by jihadist groups aided and abetted by NGOs and other interests backed by Clinton.

Thailand

Thailand’s Red Shirt movement was a powerful force that demanded a return to democracy in Thailand and the restoration of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, ousted in a 2006 military coup, to power.

A Red Shirt protest in 2010 resulted in a bloody crackdown by the Thai military. Clinton remained silent about the Thai army’s killing of protesters and the mass arrests of Red Shirt leaders. U.S. military assistance to the Thai government was continued by Clinton. When Thaskin’s sister, Yingluck Shinawatra, became prime minister in 2011, Clinton began working to undermine her and her government in a manner not unlike Clinton’s subterfuge against Rousseff in Brazil and Cristina Kirchner in Argentina. When iot comes to women leaders, Clinton only tolerates conservatives who kow-tow to the United States. The pressure against Yingluck eventually resulted in her ouster in 2014 and her being criminally charged in the same manner that saw Rousseff charged in Brazil.


Tunisia

Tunisia was one of the most secular nations in the Arab and Islamic world. A top destination for European tourists, the country was more European in its outlook than North African.

After Clinton’s 2011 “Jasmine Revolution,” a textbook themed revolution crafted by Clinton’s friend George Soros, Tunisia descended into Islamist rule and violence. Today, Tunisia is the top country for recruits to the Islamic State.

Turkey

Turkey was moving steadily closer to European standards on human rights and democracy. Even under the Islamist-oriented Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the country remained committed to pluralism.

Clinton authorized the shipment of Libyan weapons captured from Qaddafi’s arms caches to Turkish middlemen in the employment of Erdogan’s government for transfer to the jihadist rebels in Syria. A complication in this arrangement resulted in the September 11, 2012 jihadist attack on the CIA warehouse facility in Benghazi, which killed U.S. envoy Chris Stevens and other State Department personnel. Turkey’s dalliance with jihadist rebels in Syria was mirrored by increasing Islamization of Turkey. The events of 2011 and 2012 resulted in Turkey today being ruled by an Islamist strongman, Erdogan, with open political opposition being stamped out.


Ukraine

Ukraine was a stable and neutral country that neither aligned itself with the West and NATO nor with Russia under the presidency of Viktor Yanukovych, elected in 2009 and inaugurated in 2010.

Clinton tried everything possible to ensure the 2009 defeat of Viktor Yanukovych. The State Department and its friends in the George Soros camp provided assistance to Clinton’s favorite candidate Yulia Tymoshenko to defeat Yanokovych. It was this early interference in the 2009 election that ultimately led to the “Euromaidan” themed revolution in 2014 against the government, resulting in civil war, the retrocession of Cri
mea back to Russia, and secessionist states in eastern Ukraine. Clinton’s policies directly led to a failed state in Europe.

Venezuela

Under Hugo Chavez, the country provided basic social services to its poorest of citizens. Venezuela also provided discounted gasoline to several Caribbean and Central American countries through the PetroCaribe consortium.

After Clinton allowed the U.S. embassy in Caracas to foment anti-Chavez labor and political protests, the country began to falter economically. After Chavez’s 2012 diagnosis of terminal cancer, the State Department stepped up pressure on Venezuela, crippling the nation’s economy and political system.


Western Sahara


Recognized by the African Union and several nations around the world as the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic (SADR), Western Sahara saw some hope for an evacuation of illegal Moroccan occupation trops from its territory.

In 2010, Moroccan troops began entering Sahrawi refugee camps and attacking residents, even in UN-protected exclusion zones, where Moroccan troops were prohibited from entering. Clinto ensured that UN talks and a proposed popular referendum on the future of Western Sahara were stalled. Clinton pressured a number of states to withdraw their recognition of the SADR, including St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Paraguay, Haiti, Guinea-Bissau, Cape Verde, Malawi, Kenya, Mauritius, Zambia, Panama, and Burundi. The Clinton Foundation received a 2011 donation of $1 milion from a Moroccan phosphate company owned by the Moroccan government and which has mining operations in Western Sahara.

Yemen

Yemen was a largely secular state that was transforming into a federation where the rights of South Yemen and the Zaidi Houthis of north Yemen were being recognized.

Clinton’s “Arab Spring” of 2011 and the fall of Abdullah Saleh from power saw Yemen become a failed state. Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and the Islamic State gained control over several areas of North and South Yemen. The fall of Saleh permitted Saudi Arabia to conduct a genocidal war in the country with Mrs. Clinton’s full support.

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Re: The Argument Against Hillary

Post by The Silken Knot » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:18 pm

From which reliable source was your information obtained, darlin'?

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Post by dustin » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:28 pm

Looks like a big ol pile of propaganda to me.

The argument for Hillary:
- she's better then Trump the chump!
- she's not going to teach our youth to abuse women! (you really want Trump as role model for 4 years???)
- she's not going to bankrupt the USA (Trump's business MO)

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Post by n00less cluebie » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:27 pm

dustin wrote:Looks like a big ol pile of propaganda to me.

The argument for Hillary:
- she's better then Trump the chump!
- she's not going to teach our youth to abuse women! (you really want Trump as role model for 4 years???)
- she's not going to bankrupt the USA (Trump's business MO)

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Some of it at least is true. I can assure you though that the Goldstone report WAS propaganda in as far as Gaza was concerned...

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Post by dustin » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:31 pm

The problem with a pathological liar as a candidate is that I no longer believe anything Trump (or his followers) says. He makes up so much total BS. I don't have time to sift through it for nuggets of reality.

Yea, politics is a dirty game. Trump is taking it to a whole other level. I watched some of the last debate, and he talks pretty well, but so much of it is pure LIES. He makes us want to believe, but I don't trust him. He's making half of it up!!! Why would we elect somebody that is making shit up half the time?? Crazy!!

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Post by Centrico » Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:33 pm

The Silken Knot wrote:From which reliable source was your information obtained, darlin'?
The Duhb, Duhb, Duhb.... erm...the WWW....

Duh.

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Post by imapickle » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:20 pm

Quite a bit of it is true.

But if you look at what Reagan was doing in Latin America, or what the Dulles brothers were doing all over the place (esp. Iran), it is all business as usual.

Perhaps also mention what USA/Monsanto are doing in Colombia?

I dont get the impression from Germans that Germany has become an especially unsafe place, compared to most other countries.

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Post by imapickle » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:32 pm

Also, I have not heard any proof that the Clintons or Soros are the masterminds of all of this stuff. It seems that there is a whole consortium of different groups and individuals who are driving the agenda.

I also dont see much to seriously convince us that Trump will successfully stand up to all these people. He seems to blow with the wind on most issues according to what gets him most attention from his chosen audience.

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Post by Dangerous Beans » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:23 pm

dustin wrote:The problem with a pathological liar as a candidate is that I no longer believe anything Trump (or his followers) says. He makes up so much total BS. I don't have time to sift through it for nuggets of reality.

Yea, politics is a dirty game. Trump is taking it to a whole other level. I watched some of the last debate, and he talks pretty well, but so much of it is pure LIES. He makes us want to believe, but I don't trust him. He's making half of it up!!! Why would we elect somebody that is making shit up half the time?? Crazy!!
When Trump lies, its about if he called Rosie O'Donnell fat or not.

When Hillary Clinton lies its to the FBI and to the parents of the Americans she let die in Benghazi.

Trivial? Kinda like dodging sniper bullets after exiting a plane.

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Post by dustin » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:34 pm

Dangerous Beans wrote:When Trump lies, its about if he called Rosie O'Donnell fat or not.
I wish it was so simple. Trump lies about anything and everything. Read the fact-checker reports, he just lies and lies and lies. I was entertained by his bombast at the start, but after hearing more and more of hi I trust him less and less.

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Post by Drifter » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:25 pm

The Silken Knot wrote:From which reliable source was your information obtained, darlin'?
Seriously? I've sourced everything for years yet you never ask for a source from anyone else. But the information is all over the place out there, I did my homework, I'm not going to do yours hun.
dustin wrote:I wish it was so simple. Hillary lies about anything and everything. Read the fact-checker reports, she just lies and lies and lies.
See what I did there? And the amazing things is, it's still true! So your reasoning here is flawed...
imapickle wrote:I dont get the impression from Germans that Germany has become an especially unsafe place, compared to most other countries.
'We are losing control of the streets' Merkel's Germany descends into lawlessness
During the first six months of 2016, migrants committed 142,500 crimes, according to the Federal Criminal Police Office...
imapickle wrote:AI also dont see much to seriously convince us that Trump will successfully stand up to all these people.
I've never tried to convince anyone of anything about Trump, this is about HRC.

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Post by Drifter » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:33 pm

The Qatar - Turkey Pipeline Story

Synopsis of the conflicts of interest involving Qatar, Syria, Clinton foundation, and CIA.

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Quatar & Saudis donated to the Clinton foundation while HRC was Sec. State. In exchange for the donations, the CIA was sent to Syria (2011).

CIA was behind a staged Arab spring uprising to attempt to topple Assad, because he was blocking the Quatar/Turkey pipeline plan.

The "FSA" Free Syrian Army was composed of (7) CIA operatives. This group was responsible for the 07/31/11 massacre of 95 people in Hama.

The FSA, was orchastrated by the CIA at the request of Obama and HRC at the request of Qatar in exchange for Clinton foundation donations.

AMBO Stevens was was working on exposing the Free Syrian Army plot info when HRC planned a purposeful attack on his embassy killing him.

Emails on HRC's private server confirm these tragic events, and Obama & HRC thought they could pardon each other after the election.

Little did Obama/HRC realize that an auto-sync feature between Huma & Weiner inadvertently saved the deleted emails on Weiner's machine.

These bombshells will be confirmed by Wikileaks/Dikileaks soon, but maybe not before the election. The volume of hacked material is massive.

This high level heist leaving millions dead is also why HRC wants to assasinate Assange & why Obama sent Kerry to Ecuador. Now its too late.




Let's see, missing $6BILLION, arms deal to Syrians, Stevens in Benghazi, private server potus also uses...nope nothing here!

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Post by Drifter » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:55 pm

(The quote below can be found in the Donald Trump is... thread.)
Shockandawe wrote:Keep in mind there could be a whole hell of a lot that she's done we don't even know about. With her and Bill's connections within the government they could probably get away with murder.
The List of Clinton Associates Who’ve Died Mysteriously:

THE CLINTON DEAD POOL

1- James McDougal – Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988.

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan


When I was growing up, these mysterious deaths are referred to as Arkancides.

If anyone doubts any of the above, feel free to come here and visit. A former hitman for the Clintons lives about a mile down the road from me, and even though he regrets everything he's done he'd be willing to tell you all about it in order to keep more from happening in the future.[/quote]

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Re: The Argument Against Hillary

Post by n00less cluebie » Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:08 pm

Drifter wrote:
dustin wrote:I wish it was so simple. Hillary lies about anything and everything. Read the fact-checker reports, she just lies and lies and lies.
See what I did there? And the amazing things is, it's still true! So your reasoning here is flawed...
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Here's the thing, I'll give you that Hillary is secretive, corrupt, careless and may be even evil depending on which of these stories are true, but the scary part is that in HONESTY, she seems to tell the truth much more often than Donald.

Which is funny, because there's a GREATER perception that she's the liar.

The article above is an interesting read btw

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Post by Symbiosis » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:33 pm

Hillary is just much more careful about her lies. Fact-checkers might not count it as a lie if Clinton pushes for free trade for decades, both during her husband's presidency and her own political career, and then come out during the primaries this year and say suddenly that she's against free trade, but in my view it's a great reason to think she's full of shit. But she knows how to be technically, dictionary-definition honest while being full of shit, because she's a lawyer.

It might not technically count as a lie when you collect income from Walmart stock options (earned during her time as a board member for that company) while simultaneously pushing for the free trade and corporate-friendly legal environment in which Walmart may thrive, and then run a presidential campaign saying you support American workers and businesses, but to me it makes it all the more obvious how full of shit she is.

There are literally hundreds of examples of this kind of double-dealing. Selling Uranium mining rights to Russia and then making up a completely fabricated narrative about Trump being on Russia's payroll... and also stirring up new cold war rhetoric in order to imperil the whole world because she calculates that it will help her win the election. The Podesta emails opened up entirely new insights about it all. Fuck her and fuck the political and media apparatus which enables her to get away with it all.

She is a war criminal who led the effort to get Gaddafi overthrown in Libya, gloated about it grossly, then spearheaded the plan to ship Libya's armaments to Syria in order to arm Islamic militia there in order to help overthrow Assad.

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The fact that our choices this year are her and Trump is a joke, but again, the Podesta emails show that Hillary takes her share of the blame for that too, telling her "media partners" to call attention to "pied piper candidates" and specifically naming Trump as one such candidate. This was before he even announced his candidacy.

Fuck Hillary Clinton.

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Post by Drifter » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:43 am

Hillary: You Need A ‘Public’ And ‘Private’ Position On Every Issue

During a private 2013 speech to the National Multifamily Housing Council (NMHC), Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton emphasized the importance of holding two positions on political issues — a “public” one and a separate “private” one.

Clinton’s speech to the NMHC, a trade organization representing apartment building owners and developers, was one of many private speeches she gave which she refused to release the transcripts of despite heavy pressure from Sen. Bernie Sanders and Republican nominee Donald Trump. Excerpts from those speeches were released as part of a larger leak of over 2,000 emails to Clinton campaign manager John Podesta.

In the speech, Clinton talked about how the horse-trading of politics looks bad to the public, necessitating the creation of a separate public position that doesn’t reflect one’s actual views.

“You just have to sort of figure out how to … balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically, and that’s not just a comment about today,” Clinton said. “Politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position.”


The wikileaked email titled "HRC Paid Speeches" which is the source for this article can be found here, along with other interesting speeches with subtitles such as:

"*CLINTON ADMITS SHE IS OUT OF TOUCH*"
where she explains how "“I'm Kind Of Far Removed” From The Struggles Of The Middle Class...",
"*CLINTON TALKS ABOUT HOLDING WALL STREET ACCOUNTABLE ONLY FOR POLITICAL REASONS*",
"*CLINTON SUGGESTS WALL STREET INSIDERS ARE WHAT IS NEEDED TO FIX WALL STREET*",
"*CLINTON ADMITS NEEDING WALL STREET FUNDING*",
"*CLINTON TOUTS HER RELATIONSHIP TO WALL STREET AS A SENATOR*",
"*CLINTON IS AWARE OF SECURITY CONCERNS AROUND BLACKBERRIES*",
"*CLINTON REMARKS ARE PRO KEYSTONE AND PRO TRADE*"

as well as a few more.

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Post by Centrico » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:56 am

The moral of this thread?

'Next Tuesday America is about to vote in its worst president ever, regardless of the outcome.'

True story.

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Re: The Argument Against Hillary

Post by Drifter » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:58 am

I just got this one this morning. Normally I wouldn't post it up so quickly, but the election is rather soon, and after it's been established that Flight logs show Bubba flew on Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727 much more than previously known, there's a good chance it is true... so let's see what happens...
dustin wrote:- she's not going to teach our youth to abuse women! (you really want Trump as role model for 4 years???)
Insiders Threaten To Expose “Alleged” Pedophile Sex Ring!!!

All of the following information was given to us by our insiders who have specific first-hand knowledge of the Hillary Email scandal. It seems that things are about to heat up. We are told that of the 662,871 emails lifted from Weiner’s computer, 11,112 emails are Huma… and pay to play- including Saudis and Israeli’s. Meaning Huma was the one Hillary USED to communicate with foreign leaders via email for inside information and deals via Huma’s computer.

It has been established through many avenues, but mainly through Wikileaks, that the Clinton Foundation was just a farce set up in order to perform Pay-to-Play games with multiple entities, including foreign nations. Pay-to-play nations include: Israel, Saudis, Turks, Qatar, kazakhstan, and the Ukraine.

Futhermore, we are told by one of our insiders that one email unequivocally confirms Isis was created by CIA and Israeli Secret Intelligence service, with help from Joe Lieberman, John McCain and Lindsay Graham!

An NYPD insider said the content they viewed did include State Department TOP SECRET emails. One file was called “Life Insurance”. The second email was titled “DNC Nuclear arsenal”.

A third file, I’m sure Hillary definitely DOES NOT want released was a file labeled “Intimate” … according to this NYPD insider, this file contained x rated photos of Huma and Hillary with a TEENAGER.

NYPD detectives were sickened by what they saw, according to our insider, and they have threatened FBI field agents that they would leak this information, if the FBI did not “step up and take off the kids gloves”. At that point, 13 of the FBI agents in NYC are also threatening to leak the information.

As you can imagine, the scandal has the entire Obama Administration in full panic. We are told there are emails that could send Loretta Lynch to prison, as well as Bill and Hillary. The Twitter post below, our sources sent us, verifying it is all true:

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Even MORE!

The following information comes straight from an FBI Anonymous source, who is the senior analyst who posted on 4chan in early July of this year:

Jim Comey learned that some of his own investigators were tipping off both Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton, thus making his job impossible.

Comey sent a letter to congress knowing that ultimately, it would expose Loretta Lynch as a dirty actor and the bread crumbs would lead directly to Obama. The State Dept is terrified now. He has assembled a small team of 40 agents, whom he has declared the “Untouchables” after the famous federal agent, Eliot Ness.

Comey has clamped down on all FBI agents and he expects a full scale war between FBI and the Department of Justice (DOJ), the White House and the State Department. He has confirmed and understands that many sitting senators, congressmen, lobbyists and power players are going to be indicted and prosecuted. One of the main targets of the probe is the Clinton Foundation and Clinton Global Initiative. Among the targets under investigation are Podesta, Huma, Cheryl Mills, CNN, ABC, NBC, etc.

As it turns out, Weiner, Huma’s husband, had been forwarding Huma’s emails each time she came home and left her computer open. Huma appears to have been in touch with Saudi actors, and therefore, ESPIONAGE is strongly suspected.

Comey and his 40 “Untouchables” are now preparing to take down the largest corruption ever witnessed in American History… which, is what I think MUST happen if Comey is planning to stay part of the FBI. He lost so much respect and so much credibility with the first Hillary investigation, it would take something of this magnitude to allow him to face the public again.

The Pentagon has internal players and outside players they call “creatives”. Creatives are civilians who tend to be geniuses, malcontents, extreme hackers, or otherwise demonstrate brilliance in other useful areas. A Pentagon program called Cicada 3301, which we have reported on previously, was created by several of these talented civilians. The program is now used to allow thousands of honest Government people to report on their corrupt superiors, using what is called a DEAD BOX whistle blower encryption method so the non-corrupted Government officials can report corruption and still remain safe.

I’ve heard it said “A vagina almost took down Bill, now will a Weiner take down Hillary?” LOL!

Again, thank you to all of the insiders, the whistleblowers, the good FBI agents, the good CIA agents, the good NYPD officers and the non-corrupted government officials who want to see the truth exposed! Without these brave, wonderful and morally erect individuals, our country would still be in the corrupted darkness.


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Post by n00less cluebie » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:04 pm

WORTH A WATCH!


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Re: The Argument Against Hillary

Post by Red Beard » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:20 am

Don't worry Drifter. You're going to get what you want. And I think you're going to be amazed by how much it sucks.

I don't particularly like Hilary, her campaign, or how the DNC ran this entire election (believe me, I worked hard for the Bernie campaign), but I would have taken her in a heartbeat, with our even half a thought, over the walking, talking, racist misogynist spewing shit bag that is going to become our next president. Hell, I would have voted for George W over that asshole and believe me when I say that guy directly contributed to some of the shittier aspects of several years of my life. I can barely listen to him talk for more than 5 minutes before I have mini vomits. You know, the ones that creep up on you when you after you ate a lot of shit that you probably shouldn't have? I can't wait for 4 years of mini vomits. I'm so excited.

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Re: The Argument Against Hillary

Post by mazza » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:17 pm

mazza wonders who the heck Drifter hired to write all of that down....

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Re: The Argument Against Hillary

Post by imapickle » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:43 pm

https://thenearlynow.com/trump-putin-an ... .mz7la0i67

"People who are looking to understand what the Trump gang is up to would do well to consider his gang’s actions through the lens of the Carbon Bubble. Understand that the amounts of money at stake are vast, nearly inconceivable to most of us, and highly concentrated in the hands of the people in Trump’s cabinet and their close friends and business allies."

Is the Trumpocalypse upon us? And all for the sake of keeping oil prices overinflted for a few more years?

This could make any of Hillary´s crimes pale in comparison.

I am still not convinced that the stuff about Putin hacking the election is true, but it is true he needs high oil prices to keep himself in power.
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Re: The Argument Against Hillary

Post by The Silken Knot » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:08 pm

Thanks for that link, pickle. I must admit I'm torn about Trump being in power.
  • On one hand, his administration quite clearly means the end of civilization as we know it.... if not the entire planet.

    On the other hand, my retirement account has never looked better.
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Post by Centrico » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:17 pm

The Silken Knot wrote:Thanks for that link, pickle. I must admit I'm torn about Trump being in power.
  • On one hand, his administration quite clearly means the end of civilization as we know it.... if not the entire planet.

    On the other hand, my retirement account has never looked better.
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An honest response if I've ever seen one. :smt077

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Re: The Argument Against Hillary

Post by The Silken Knot » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:55 pm

Oh, you!

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Re: The Argument Against Hillary

Post by Mach » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:06 pm

On the home page of the BBC today...

The lead article:

Trump says courts are 'so political'
The US president tells police chiefs he has the right to enact his controversial executive order.


The article below it:

Russian opposition leader found guilty
Outspoken Putin critic Alexei Navalny is now barred from running for the presidency in 2018.


Plus la même chose... :roll:

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Re: The Argument Against Hillary

Post by The Silken Knot » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:25 pm

Franklin Leonard ✔ @franklinleonard wrote:
A man too racist to be a federal judge in the 80s is now Attorney General. Do you realize how racist "too racist" was in the 1980s?

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