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george874 · Lux Newbie Joined: 21 Sep 2009 Posts: 65

Welll,,,,

You peeps know i really don't make many posts,,,, and i think this is the first thread I've started , but I have to post my feelings about the medal winner this week.

Sunday afternoon,, about 4:30,,,,, 1 1/2 hours before the chase ends,,,, the Medalist of this week and I are in a 4 player game. Wnr is about to get 6th place,,, and is the host of the game. He says he wants to reset for a full house,,,,,, and I guest out and say there are still only going to be 4 players,,,,,,,,,, not a full house......... WELL,,,,

HE RESET ANYWAY and there is still 4 players in the game..

TSK was in the room,,,, and I complained,,,,,,,, She said it was ok because he apoligized,,,,,,,, Well ,,, I don't think so.

He would have gotten -100 points,,,, one hour before the chase ended.

It didn't matter to me ,,, because I was never in the top 5,,,,,,, but, to the other players,,,,, I feel that they have been Cheated.

I really feel that this was a major WRONG done and should be rectified !!!!!!!!!!!

TSK: Edited to tone down inflammatory title.

Elka Ostrovsky · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:32 pm Post subject:

To reset because you are getting a 6th is not right at all, and to reset using the excuse for a fullhouse when only 4 people is even worse. That -100 point swing would have made a huge difference on all 3 medals.

Also, the weekly reset came earlier than I have seen it so far, so chalk me up another Ghost Win Crying or Very sad

✱ +58 for player Elka Ostrovsky. Now at 1327 ✱

Samuel99 · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:47 pm Post subject:

Looks like it matters a lot to you Elka......If it would not have matter you would not have made this post .........

gfips · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:47 pm Post subject:

I remember when you, George got suspended for a wrong restart on a chase weekend in a similar situation by Para. I was there and Para told you immeditaly, that the restart was wrong and that he needs to ban you (as far as i remember correct).

to this situation:
I was not there and can't really judge what really happened, but as far as a read, it has a fale taste ... a restart to avoid 6th place should not be tolarated in a chase game in my oppinion, especially if you really told him before that you guested out. As far as i know wnr i don't want to presume he did that on intention. Problably he really thought that there were more humans. But in general those acts should not be handled in different ways by the mods.

So my tip: don't chase and you can watch that all that very relaxed. Believe me! Since i stopped chasing i feel much better and can really enjoy each game independend on what happens!

Elka Ostrovsky · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject:

guillerme · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject:

So there was 4 players, one come, now 5, Wnr want rs and George guest out? For me rs.., If i understand good, of course..

The Silken Knot · Lux Bartendress Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 3891

George, here's what I saw:

wnr was rs'ing because Bubi and I had both entered the room where a game with four players was in progress. With you, that would have been a full house. wnr apparently thought it was... but you had guested out. I honestly took your claim that it wasn't fh as one of your usual "jokes", and wnr may have, too. Unfortunately, wnr restarted with you and I both guested out, and the next game began with four players. wnr apologized to you a number of times about the reset, and I asked you to accept the apology.

In my opinion, it wasn't done to cheat. wnr didn't immediately jump on the chance to rs, but with the third round cutoff looming, acted. I might as easily claim that you guesting out was manipulation to avoid a restart... but I wouldn't. I hope you can see my point of view, shake it off and start in on this week's drama.

mazza · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:45 am Post subject:

IF he restarted without getting the ok from all of the players involved, then i agree in principle with George. If a moderator is in the room, we have the ability to restart the game at anytime we wish to, so if WNR was worried that no one else would have restarted it, he was blatently wrong. Due to the fact that it was in a chase situation as well, it makes it a bitter pill to swallow for all other participants, as George says, as it does change the whole make-up of the chase in a single instant.

People can apologise over and over again after the event has occured, but surely it is not hard to either ask the room if it is ok to restart, and furthermore, typing /u to actually see if a full house is going to occur with a subsequent restart is seriously not too hard for any of the 6 people in the room to do. you have to type "/start" to get a game going, it is less typing to actually type "/u" to see if it is warranted. If George says this like it did happen, i think he has every right to be aggravated at this, especially if the RAW leader of the week is rsing BEFORE there is consensus in the room.

Restarting games like this is a huge no-no, in my opinion, especially if he restarts it, and the status-quo of only 4 humans still playing does not change......

For all it is worth, i agree with you George, i was not there, and cannot defend your behaviour, or language or anything like that, BUT, i do agree with you that it should not have been restarted in the 1st place. However, i do not know what you think can be changed by this.....sure, WNR may have got 6th, but you cannot begin to argue about who was going to win, and the RAW changes that could have taken place.

Hopefully, there is a lesson to be learned in all of this by the players and guests present, and if this situation arises in the future, all parties know how it should act out.

guillerme · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:59 am Post subject:

Just curious, why George guested out? Maybe someone wanted to WNR lost 100 points? Someone think it is good guest out for no rs, i mean for a new human? Nothing is free, all is for something...
Its not always rs for fh, or atleast for 5 humans? Since when? Hinder a possible full house, it's good? May need a lawyer... I'm being ironic

gfips · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:20 am Post subject:

n00less cluebie · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject:

/go of this argument

Samuel99 · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject:

well my post was complitely out of track i was sure that Elka made it......

The Silken Knot · Lux Bartendress Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 3891

mentor09 · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:58 am Post subject:

IMO a restart is ALWAYS wrong if it's a chase - so dustin might change the code: NO restart is allowed if the room is ranked.

The Silken Knot · Lux Bartendress Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 3891

In your opinion, it was also appropriate for a suspended player to participate in a public tournament. Razz

But if dustin chooses to alter the game parameters, it might codify guest host behavior, something that isn't currently directly addressed by the Lux Rules.