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October 3rd - 4th is the 2009 Map Retrospective Weekend
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dustin
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: October 3rd - 4th is the 2009 Map Retrospective Weekend Reply with quote

October 3rd-4th is the 2009 Map Retrospective!!

All Weekend Long

The 2009 Map Retrospective Weekend will mean that only maps released in 2009 can be played online during the weekend.

That means no Classic, no Roman Empire II, and no Deux in any room during the weekend. Only maps released in 2009! Come out and play some of the great maps that have been released this year!

The scoring will be based on highest RAW at the end of the weekend, as long as that person played at least 3 games in the map retrospective.


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3DA
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations to all the mapmakers! There were a lot of STELLAR maps made this year. I'm looking forward to playing some in the retrospective tourney.
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paranoiarodeo
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: October 3rd - 4th is the 2009 Map Retrospective Weekend Reply with quote

dustin wrote:
October 3rd-4th is the 2009 Map Retrospective!!

Scoring is as follows (for each game with 5+ humans):


May I recommend that Reaper be used as the sixth player when necessary ... no bots first ... ?

So Reaper will get a chance to medal just like everyone else ...

∞ paranoiarodeo shrugs ∞
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-NN-Grim
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok so this means literally that only new maps can be played online right?

like... Classic or Rome won't register on the tracker?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-NN-Grim wrote:
ok so this means literally that only new maps can be played online right?

like... Classic or Rome won't register on the tracker?


Don't you pay attention to the Mod Forum? or maybe your just making sure all the Classicists, Bio, and romans understand that there beloved maps wont be available this weekend.
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-NN-Grim
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wink
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THE J-Dude
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what about MOTW... is THAT a map from 2009???... also are these RANKED GAMES???
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dustin
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the MOTW is an eligible map.

Yes, they will be ranked games (though unranked games would also count for the Luxtoberfest tourney points).
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THE J-Dude
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh cool I will play MOTW if it gets hosted
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Enzo1997
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But Classic Touch will be hosted O.o
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Moiz
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EnZo!9(7 wrote:
But Classic Touch will be hosted O.o


Classic touch is fun.
I play it all the time on my phone.
Haven't bought the full version yet :p
But it'll be fun to play it on lux too
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dustin
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to disallow Classic Touch during the map retrospective, since it's the same layout as classic.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to change the scoring for this tournament, to encourage people to play more games on different maps.

I might just use RAW as the scoring mechanism, since this tournament corresponds with the weekly chase. Maybe turning off the MOTW bonus to give all maps equality for the weekend.

What do you think?
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Cuarto
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the MOTW players who don't read the forums will be confused. Razz


Additionally, I think it will be a really interesting experiment using RAW for a Luxtoberfest tournament. In the end, the top placers probably will be weighted to those who played the most for the tournament, however. Should still be interesting to see exactly how it plays out.


P.s. pink hair is hot on you.
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Claudiu
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to make sure that I understand this correctly: does this mean that it will be technically impossible to host and play Rome II and Classic on the Lux Tracker, or, does it mean that those who will attempt to do such a thing will be dealt with?
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dustin
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be technically impossible to host and play Rome II and Classic during this weekend.
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Enokrad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would turn the bonus incentive for the motw off.

that would allow the chase to be played different maps rather than motw monopolizing all online play for those who are after RAW.

People who wish to chase using the motw map should have as incentive the fact that they will receive points for the motw competition.
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paranoiarodeo
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um ... uh ... really ... ?

Disabling the bonus would give a monstrous advantage to those who played Alexanders Conquests earlier this week ...

IMHO ... scoring systems shouldn't be changed mid-stream ... ever ...

But ... I take these things more seriously than everyone else ... and I'm not in charge ...

So ... whatever ... have fun ...

∞ paranoiarodeo mutters to himself ∞
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Enokrad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

para has be arguing against the bonus and the how it effects the chase for ......i can't even remember how long.

And when we finally found an instance that would serve better to turn it off

he doesn't want to do it? Shocked

Make up your mind para.

it's frustrating since most of the time arguing with para is like arguing with a wall.

nothing productive comes out of it.
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paranoiarodeo
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enokrad ... you're missing my point ... consistency is the greater issue ...

Ground rules shouldn't be changed half way through the game ...

This week for example ... BWE and others have raced well ahead of everyone by virtue of the bonus ...

Removing it now would make it significantly harder for anyone to catch them ...

(Good luck to any middlings hoping to crack the top ten this weekend. Seriously. Good luck!)


Enokrad wrote:
it's frustrating since most of the time arguing with para is like arguing with a wall. nothing productive comes out of it.


I know ... you all think I'm an overscrupulous crank who whines about every little thing ... how lovely ...

That's why I said ... "I'm not in charge whatever have fun" ... and next time ... I'll just bite my tongue ...

∞ paranoiarodeo wanders off to find another wall to bang his head against ∞
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say I agree with Para. Had this been announced (and the MOTW bonus removed) before last week's chase ended, this would be a fantastic idea. But as it is now it would just cause problems.
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dustin
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, thanks for the feedback guys. What about a slightly different change: turning the MOTW bonus ON for all the 2009 maps during the retrospective? That way everyone could crash the top ten on different maps.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds great to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait... EVERY game gets a MOTW bonus... !!! that will be craziness... CRAZINESS I tell you...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dustin wrote:
OK, thanks for the feedback guys. What about a slightly different change: turning the MOTW bonus ON for all the 2009 maps during the retrospective? That way everyone could crash the top ten on different maps.


I think that would be a great idea! Very Happy
I'd like to host winner's pick this weekend and that would make it very interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not going to be able to play a game until on or after the 6th. Can dustin fix that? Perhapse redo the first week of luxtoberfest in november? With raw bonus?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dustin wrote:
I'm going to disallow Classic Touch during the map retrospective, since it's the same layout as classic.


I assume that Classic Part Trois will be one of the maps played since the layout is slightly different? Maybe? Pleeeeeeeease? And Japan has it's own bonus! How can you go wrong?


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dustin
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Map Retrospective Weekend has started! I've put up some hosts with a selection of 2009 maps that I like to start out with. All hosts can also join in and host 2009 maps of their choosing.

The scoring will be based on highest RAW at the end of the weekend (it will probably go later then the usual reset time). All ranked games can contribute to your score.

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Claudiu
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dustin wrote:
The Map Retrospective Weekend has started! I've put up some hosts with a selection of 2009 maps that I like to start out with. All hosts can also join in and host 2009 maps of their choosing.

The scoring will be based on highest RAW at the end of the weekend (it will probably go later then the usual reset time). All ranked games can contribute to your score.



So the one to win the gold medal also wins this one? Dude, seriously...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: October 3rd - 4th is the 2009 Map Retrospective Weekend Reply with quote

I think if the tournment is base on the finally of the RAW at the end of the weekend its just not great.Some player have already an big advantage and the tournment is just starting.I think it should be base like the VETS tournment or the Rookie tournment.
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