Vox Hell

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:06 am

Finally an opportunity to play Vox as death personified. If that's not cheery enough for you there's oblivion personified 'Hypnos', eternally damned king 'Sisyphus' or the life of the party himself, 'Hades' to choose from.[/img]

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:11 am

The first step I took making this map was to create 7 players in the player set-up panel. I decided later it would probably play better with 6 but I can't find a way to delete the 7 player. Even when I delete all info in the boxes for the 7th player a bot still appears for it in the info box during play.

Lupus ferox · Post by **Lupus ferox** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:55 am

I have the same problem with Inferioris.... Dustin thinks it's an map editor flaw....

blackj3sus · Post by **blackj3sus** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:55 pm

hmm, maybe doing things out of "the map editor order" causes bugs?

i think i did red cliff out of order and got the country label bug.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:17 pm

Is it a matter then of starting a new file and re-entering all the data, ensuring you get the player info part right at the beginning...?

blackj3sus · Post by **blackj3sus** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:48 pm

it's worth a try...
it may be imperative, in some situations, to follow "the map editor order"

Lupus ferox · Post by **Lupus ferox** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:42 pm

I suggest to wait until Dustin solves this....

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:02 am

Thermal underwear advised.

GregM · Post by **GregM** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:29 pm

Hades needs real country names!

The player names for The Pole seem a bit mixed up? E.g. "Canada" starts off in control of northwest Europe instead of, say, Canada.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:30 pm

You'll have to define 'real' for me.

If it helps - I haven't invented any of the country names or player names in Hades. Everything in the map including the outline of the terrain was sourced from texts and pictorial works on Greek gods and religion. It's 'real' myth.

I just spotted this issue in The Pole also. It's odd I'm not sure what happened there but easy to fix. ty.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:04 pm

The Pole starting issue is fixed. While I was at it I made some changes to the income/army distribution also. I now have some players starting with more income but less armies, some other players with less income but more armies and some players right in the middle. I'd be interested to hear any thoughts on this approach.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:23 pm

This product contains no traces of Tom Cruise.

GregM · Post by **GregM** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:52 pm

Behemoth wrote:You'll have to define 'real' for me.

I meant that instead of "N Elysion", "NE Elysion", "E Elysion", "S Elysion" and "W Elysion" it might be fun to have relevant mythological names for the individual territories.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:47 pm

finding 27 place names was hard. I did consider it but was well short of names.

Post by **dustin** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:41 pm

I agree that unique names for all countries would add an extra nice touch. I think the Hades myth has plenty of ideas to draw from, and it's OK to take a bit of liberty also, using god/demon names, or creating underworldly places (like Flaming Fields, Poisoned Wheat, Barren Hills, Endless Crags, Drylands, Foul Pits, etc).

It looks like there's a spelling mistake: cocytRus shouldn't have an R in it?

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:10 am

That would be a mistake yes. I'll see what I can cook up re place names then and fix that R while I'm at it.

n00less cluebie · Post by **n00less cluebie** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:10 am

Time to whip out my MoP:

Looks like 8 continents and 27 countries eh?

Let's see what we can find....

If you want to look at all the Evil Outer Planes we have

(starting from the Order end)

Acheron
Avalas
Thuldanin
Tintibulus
Ocanthus

Nine Hells
Avernus
Dis
Minauros
Phlegethos
Stygia
Malbolge
Maladomini
Caina
Nessus

Gehenna
Khalas
Chamada
Mungoth
Krangath

Hades
Oinos
Niflheim
Pluton

Tarterus
Othrys
Cathrys
Minethys
Colothys
Porphatys
Agathys

Abyss
Pazunia....

Pandemonium
Nidavellir
Pandesmos
Cocytus
Phlegethon
Agathion

If you just want to stay in Hades, some of the other features of that plane include:

The River Styx
The Foundation of Mount Olympus
The Base of Yggdrasil
Grove of Persephone
Anthraxus's Fortress of Khin Oin
Kennel of Cerberus
City of Nergaltos

gods of Hades include:
Anthraxus
Hel (Norse)
Hades A.K.A. Pluton (Greek/Roman)
Nergal (Babylonian)
Ratri (Indian)
Abbathor (Dwarvish)
Silent Yurtrus (Orcish)

I can get you info on the other planes if you are so inclined.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:35 am

Ottimo!

Although I completed the changes a week or so ago.

You'll be pleased to know I did use some of the same names you've included.

There's a fair whack of Norse titles in there though. The tree of Yggdrasil (the tree of life with remains standing after the apocalypse of 'Ragnarok') is certainly Norse and Odin is a variation of Zeus... like Thor was to Zeus... mmm. Valhalla of course is Elysion... a sort of heaven for soldiers.

Anyway...

Nice work and thanks for the effort! Trying to finish the next one :p

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:47 am

The Big League is a much simpler and more player friendly version of another map I made for Lux some time ago.

I had included 6 characters as part of the theme in the previous version but of course characters can't be assigned to players in lux. All-up the map itself was a largely misguided venture I suspect.

Anyway Vox is the perfect home for this idea.

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Drifter · Post by **Drifter** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:17 am

Awesome map and graphics as I have come to expect from you. I'm looking forward to playing on this one.

Now we have to work on that bbcode thing... it is kinda boggling the mind on my end to be honest.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:16 am

The secret is to highlight the area you want to apply the bbcode to.

My mistake was i just set the cursor where i wanted the bbcode.

So yeah, highlight the whole section you want to change then use the bbcode buttons to apply.

glad you like the look of the map, cheers.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:45 am

It's now downloadable from your Vox plug-ins.

I wonder what people think of the unit graphics? Do they make sense?

mbauer · Post by **mbauer** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:47 pm

Behemoth wrote:
I wonder what people think of the unit graphics? Do they make sense?

I think the Castle is great!

But the soldier and knight are easy to confuse on the map with everything going on. They are both tall slender objects with cityscapes. I think a key to keeping them clearly separate is to vary their shapes, ie. 1 tall and skinny, the other short and stout.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:12 pm

Think I agree Mb. I like the pawn icon as is but the knight isn't quite right. I'll have another go

... Knights are now larger than the pawn. Think it works

blackj3sus · Post by **blackj3sus** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:14 pm

lol at n00les's manual of the plains

mbauer · Post by **mbauer** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:09 pm

Behemoth wrote: ... Knights are now larger than the pawn. Think it works

IMO, they look even more similar now. They both have a cityscape with a leg being raised over it and a bulbous head atop. But that's just my opinion.

n00less cluebie · Post by **n00less cluebie** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:10 pm

I think MB would be happier if you put a pink feather boa around the knights.....

mbauer · Post by **mbauer** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:24 pm

That just might work.

I didn't mean to sound negative though, if that's how it came across. And you don't have to make me happy.

RandomGuy · Post by **RandomGuy** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:26 pm

mbauer wrote:
Behemoth wrote: ... Knights are now larger than the pawn. Think it works
IMO, they look even more similar now. They both have a cityscape with a leg being raised over it and a bulbous head atop. But that's just my opinion.

agree

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:15 pm

The problem i saw with the original knight was that it didn't look enough like what it was - the image was to busy. Sure both are shown with the same action but I'm hard pressed to see how folks would miss the difference between the knights head and the pawns. The knight is quite a bit larger than the pawn also.

But maybe that's just me.

I'll keep a pink feather on stand-by.

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