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Post by blackj3sus » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:27 am

i wish for on the fly team alliances that can be broken, and if so the once allied armies duke it out in whatever territories they occupy at the same time.


i wish for the ability to plan and execute my robot teammates turn.


i wish for shared resources between teammates.

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Post by Ramcat » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:53 pm

Gee, I hope this feature is not already in Castle Vox.

Replays, anyone?

I would love to be able to save a replay of all the moves taken in a game and rewatch the battles.

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Post by blackj3sus » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:43 pm

i wish for shared resources between teammates.

if the said teams are not separated by the enemy.

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Post by GYPCOUNT » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:14 am

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It did say wish list, right?
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Post by blackj3sus » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:16 pm

i wish for what gyp wished for and more ppl to play...

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Post by Behemoth » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:41 pm

Hosting instructions don't seem to be readily available.

Be good to know exactly what is involved to be able to host (not just opening a port, but what Vox requires from a host compared to Lux)

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Post by Behemoth » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:37 pm

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Mud wrote:A replay button that would show the last turn and the fighting for that turn would be nice. It would let me analyze what happened in better detail.
I have asked for that 2, and I think Djdee also asked for that.
It would have to be a slow replay to see the moves clearly.

What about a still shot of the board which recalls all troop placements and moves in the turn just made?

There would probably have to be a 'view player by player' function so the board wasn't thick with crisscrossing arrows and bunches of troops stacked on top of one another. Ideally you'd be able to click on each individual player's name or colour to see just their moves.

I wouldn't mind that last function while making moves to be honest. I often have to undo my moves to double check troop numbers, placements and movement because I can't see clearly with all the units, numbers and arrows overlapping each other in such a small area.

I've noticed that friendly units are now placed flush against one another when more than one team member occupies the same country.

This goes some way to making things clearer but I still think it could be improved. The idea of a single troop with multiple numbered spheres was a really neat solution to this issue I thought.

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Post by Behemoth » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:10 am

I've noticed the new players are confused about where to learn if maps are team maps or not.

They're expecting the information would have been provided on the tracker which i think is kinda fair enough. If i was new I wouldn't know where to look for details about the maps.

So yeah, I think team info included on the tracker would be ideal.

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Post by dustin » Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:07 pm

Hmm, what would be the best way to show the team info in the tracker? A teams column like the plugin manager has? or?

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Post by Behemoth » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:07 am

Like the map plug-in manager shows the information.

I noticed a few players joining a game with the assumption they would play solo... then discovering they were on a team when they were on one.

One other thing. I suppose it's good there's a 24 hour turn game up but is 100 years the right map for it? It's a great map but it's not an especially large one. There's only so much to consider each turn. 24 hours seems like overkill - better suited to a larger map like Alexander or Napoleonic..?

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Post by xthelmx » Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:19 pm

Wish list item: I love the endgame power-graph. How about using the ctrl-B toggle to display a second graph of _team_ performance, so we can see both a team graph and an individual graph? Encourages team play!

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Post by Odanan » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:17 pm

Behemoth wrote:
This goes some way to making things clearer but I still think it could be improved. The idea of a single troop with multiple numbered spheres was a really neat solution to this issue I thought.

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(Left image below shows how it is now - right image shows multiple sphere's idea)
Yes, it would be much better for maps with small regions (countries). I loved this solution!
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Post by Odanan » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:27 pm

My wish list:

1- To make possible for the mapper to rename the units (ex: knight = armored, pawn = infantry, castle = fortress);
2- To be able to drag the recruit panel (because it sometimes annoyingly cover some important information);
3- To have most of the console commands in the upper menu during the match (simplifying the playability).
4- To show the allied planned movements before the turn ends (this helps coordinating attacks);
5- To add the option for a player to give a territory to other player;
6- To make possible for the mapper to edit the units’ stats;
7- To make possible for the mapper to have different images for units from different players;
8- Multiplayer: to add a lobby where the players make their choices before the game starts;
9- To make possible for the mapper to add more units and buildings types (ex: cities = only recruit; forts = only bonus to defense);
10- Long ranged units: can attack an adjacent territory without the need of moving in to it (ex: archers, artillery). Drawback: cannot fight units in the same territory. It would be kind of tricky to add this to the game's mechanism, but imagene how much it could improve the strategy complexity of the game for better.
11- Different terrain types, like mountains (take two turns to cross), flooded (only crossed by infantry) and so on.

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Post by DaveyJJ » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:29 am

Odanan wrote:My wish list:

1- To make possible for the mapper to rename the units (ex: knight = armored, pawn = infantry, castle = fortress);
10- Long ranged units: can attack an adjacent territory without the need of moving in to it (ex: archers, artillery). Drawback: cannot fight units in the same territory. It would be kind of tricky to add this to the game's mechanism, but imagene how much it could improve the strategy complexity of the game for better.
11- Different terrain types, like mountains (take two turns to cross), flooded (only crossed by infantry) and so on.
These exactly. Ranged attacks, different unit names, different terrain types for movement/costs/prohibitions/etc. Ranged attacks being at the very top of my list.

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Post by blackj3sus » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:35 am

1- To make possible for the mapper to rename the units (ex: knight = armored, pawn = infantry, castle = fortress);
5- To add the option for a player to give a territory to other player;
(and option for a player to give cash to other player)
6- To make possible for the mapper to edit the units’ stats;
7- To make possible for the mapper to have different images for units from different players;
11- Different terrain types, like mountains (take two turns to cross), flooded (only crossed by infantry) and so on.

would like to see these happen


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9- To make possible for the mapper to add more units and buildings types (ex: cities = only recruit; forts = only bonus to defense);
10- Long ranged units: can attack an adjacent territory without the need of moving in to it (ex: archers, artillery). Drawback: cannot fight units in the same territory. It would be kind of tricky to add this to the game's mechanism, but imagene how much it could improve the strategy complexity of the game for better.

probably not gonna happen based on what dustin has said previously


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2- To be able to drag the recruit panel (because it sometimes annoyingly cover some important information);
3- To have most of the console commands in the upper menu during the match (simplifying the playability).
4- To show the allied planned movements before the turn ends (this helps coordinating attacks);
8- Multiplayer: to add a lobby where the players make their choices before the game starts;


not priority but good ideas

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Post by GYPCOUNT » Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:27 pm

Behemoth wrote:
One other thing. I suppose it's good there's a 24 hour turn game up but is 100 years the right map for it? It's a great map but it's not an especially large one. There's only so much to consider each turn. 24 hours seems like overkill - better suited to a larger map like Alexander or Napoleonic..?
Nobody is taking more than 15 minutes, I dare say to make any one round of moves. The benefit of the 24 hour turn cycle, is some of us have demanding jobs, with long hours, and are unable to log onto vox while at work.

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Post by Behemoth » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:56 am

I hear you, I can't keep up with 24h much less than 16h turn times when I'm in the middle of a job. When working more regular hours though 16h turn times aren't an issue.

Some players do spend a lot of time (many hours) over their moves especially on larger more complex maps, so 24 hours makes perfect sense for those games.

All I was suggesting was that medium or smaller maps which are probably less time intensive to play might better suit a 16h timer.

When all or the most part of 24 hours are being used by one or two players on a medium or small sized map I struggle to stay interested, especially when the player(s) in question has got limited move options (which i've noticed happen quite a few times toward the end of a game.)

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Post by Behemoth » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:36 pm

Odanan wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
This goes some way to making things clearer but I still think it could be improved. The idea of a single troop with multiple numbered spheres was a really neat solution to this issue I thought.

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Yes, it would be much better for maps with small regions (countries). I loved this solution!
Glad to hear it. :smt023

The one unit idea was RG's spin on a similar idea in this <a href="http://sillysoft.net/forums/viewtopic.p ... thread.</a> I still reckon it would be the best solution to the space issue and make an all-round improvement to game play.

Also - It would mean map makers could design with much more clarity - when using the 'Set Vox Unit Points' you'd know exactly where the units would appear. At present the tool is only accurate when one team member occupies the country, there's no way to truly know how the units will look when multiple team members meet there.

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Post by nimrod7 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:21 pm

I think it would be cool if Allies could place units wherever one of them has a castle.

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Post by mud » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:48 pm

Vox needs a web based interface so I can play on my iphone.

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Post by Odanan » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:51 pm

Nimrod7 wrote:I think it would be cool if Allies could place units wherever one of them has a castle.
Nice idea!

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Post by Behemoth » Sat May 07, 2011 9:56 pm

The symbols available to assign teams are a bit limited.

Would it be possible to tailor the list somehow, as map makers do with unit icons?

I mention it because most of the popular maps (at least on-line) have themes based on actual conflicts. Ideally teams for these maps would be assigned a symbol that was historically relevant, especially for those set post industrial-revolution where many insignias are widely recognisable.

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Post by dustin » Sun May 08, 2011 5:36 pm

The team symbols are unicode characters. The map editor makes available a limited number of them for easy access. If you find other unicode characters you'd like to use as team symbols, you could type them into the map text file directly, or ask me to include them in the map editor selection-boxes.

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Post by blanco » Mon May 09, 2011 9:23 am

Ramcat wrote:Gee, I hope this feature is not already in Castle Vox.

Replays, anyone?

I would love to be able to save a replay of all the moves taken in a game and rewatch the battles.
I would also like to re-watch some games, I really like this suggestion. Maybe it's an idea to create an option for the game to automatically make screenshots of every beginning of the turn and movement fase. That way you could watch the entire game again later. Maybe also an option for the game to make a screenshot every X turns, so you can decide for yourself how many you want.

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Post by Behemoth » Thu May 12, 2011 1:14 am

dustin wrote:If you find other unicode characters you'd like to use as team symbols, you could type them into the map text file directly...
Ah ha! Thanks.

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Post by Behemoth » Sun May 15, 2011 2:12 pm

Odanan wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
This goes some way to making things clearer but I still think it could be improved. The idea of a single troop with multiple numbered spheres was a really neat solution to this issue I thought.

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(Left image below shows how it is now - right image shows multiple sphere's idea)
Yes, it would be much better for maps with small regions (countries)...
Hex Extreme for example.

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Post by mud » Mon May 16, 2011 12:54 pm

Odanan wrote:My wish list:
8- Multiplayer: to add a lobby where the players make their choices before the game starts
This would be awesome or something like it. There needs to be a way of choosing who you get to play with.

I am not going to sign up for any new games unless I am the last player in the game and I can see who is there.

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Post by dustin » Mon May 16, 2011 4:11 pm

The /play command lets you choose who you control. For example: /play England

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Post by mud » Mon May 16, 2011 4:28 pm

I know how to choose the position. It is the players I play with that I want to choose. I want to play against opponents that I enjoy playing against and won't quit mid way through.

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Post by Behemoth » Mon May 16, 2011 4:52 pm

I like the idea mud.

Raises an issue about who gets to do the picking though. First come first serve? Or would higher ranked (win%) players get more of a say... or would that be elitist.

Maybe multiple players could control the lobby and whoever fills the spots first gets to play the map?

Also... I think the player in control of the lobby should have to nominate a minimum number of players greater than the available spots, say 1.5 times as many, so 12 players for Napoleon.

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