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RAW lessened in 40-50% games

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:42 pm
by dustin
Now in effect: games with a high continent % give out less RAW to the winners.

50% get knocked down the most.
15% and below games have no RAW penalty.

Please let me know what you think.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:22 pm
by -NN-Grim
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:54 pm
by *Manimal
I like the idea of it! :D

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:12 am
by mazza
i agree; i like it, considering 50% games are finished in the blink of an eye, it seems like a natural, common-sense idea; it may help us Classic players at 0% bonus a lil bit, that is for sure............


/me smiles for the 1st time in a while........................

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:13 am
by BigSausage
lol watch the biohazard games turn into 30%
:D

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:39 am
by Rated Insane
Well having just done a quick bit of research most 50% games are twice as fast as a 15% game. From what it looks like a 50% game is getting roughly 40% less RAW than a 15%. This means that effectually LUX now only has 5 10 and 15% bonuses since there is no advantage at all in playing the higher RAW games.

Its a good move, its taken the advantage from Bio which can only be good but you might as well have just removed the top bonus scores.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:40 am
by djdee
good one dustin, let's see how effective it is. Come on you classic players.


/me goes off to learn classic :)

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:48 am
by TazzyGirl
/me runs for the hills of classic .. the bio players are coming

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:47 am
by C-Rex
C-Rex joins Kanye West and the others in the intro and sings

And now for my next number..
I'd like to return to the..
Classic
uh, uh, - timeless..
Nike's straight classic
Classic
Timeless..
I'd like to return to the classic


So instead of 90 in a fh with equal raw you will get...like what? Nvm, I'll try to find out. :smt020

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:47 am
by Rated Insane
C-Rex wrote:C-Rex joins Kanye West and the others in the intro and sings

And now for my next number..
I'd like to return to the..
Classic
uh, uh, - timeless..
Nike's straight classic
Classic
Timeless..
I'd like to return to the classic


So instead of 90 in a fh with equal raw you will get...like what? Nvm, I'll try to find out. :smt020
about 50 but the loser still loses tuns lol

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:53 am
by Deep Blue
why is there no bio full house anywhere?


oh lol there are 2

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:00 pm
by BigSausage
why can't we just have seperate raw?
Like a classic raw
Other maps would be in Other Raw.

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:44 pm
by C-Rex
Or we can have raw sausages?

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:35 pm
by djdee
There has been an interesting result of this and I do not know if it occurred before or has just been created by the drop in income. Some 40% bio games have a negative net raw increase. Hypothetically, if all games were like this then it would mean that if a group of average players all played together all the time all their raw would drop below 500 every week. Or does this only happen when a player with relative high raw loses? Is it more common in 50% bio games?

anyway here is an example, I have seen a few now.

http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/716508

Just making an observation, and overall I think this is working quite well. It is good to see the Roman Empire ghetto doing so well.

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:55 pm
by -NN-Grim
I think the Roman crowd is more motivated to join the chase now that the playing field has been somewhat leveled.

I notice there are more Romans with big scores even though we havent been affected directly by the raw change.
I wouldn't be surprised to soon see more romans finish the weeks with scores above 1300.

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:39 am
by The Wontrob
St00pid Grim stole my bronze this week... :? ( :D )

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:04 am
by C-Rex
Can we make Roman 23 s, 40%? And some countries missing? And maybe include the other continents as well? That would be cool, thanks.

Re: RAW lessened in 40-50% games

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:19 pm
by djdee
dustin wrote:Now in effect: games with a high continent % give out less RAW to the winners.

50% get knocked down the most.
15% and below games have no RAW penalty.

Please let me know what you think.
You have got to be kidding me I have my host set at 10% and 29 secs and still raw is being lost net every game.

Re: RAW lessened in 40-50% games

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:02 am
by crimsonhosking
djdee wrote:
dustin wrote:Now in effect: games with a high continent % give out less RAW to the winners.

50% get knocked down the most.
15% and below games have no RAW penalty.

Please let me know what you think.
You have got to be kidding me I have my host set at 10% and 29 secs and still raw is being lost net every game.
I agree with djdee here.
I can't seem to find any justification as to the small raw handouts, IF any these past few days.
I play in Grim's room alot with is 15% and the Rome room plus my host at 10% yet the raw is not coming. I've gained 1.5% in the win percentage section and gained about 29 raw in my last 9 game wins.

Links to such games are following:
http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/718505
http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/718289
http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/718282
http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/718263
http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/717841
http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/717773
http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/717766
http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/717219
http://sillysoft.net/lux/rankings/game/717120

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:18 pm
by -NN-Grim
Crim,

Dustin recently posted in a different thread about a bug in the way RAW was being distributed, so I think the biggest problem is solved.

Im not a RAW expert by any standard, however, I notice most of those games you linked were 2 or 3 human games. Those almost never give RAW if you are ranked higher than the other one or 2 humans playing.
in fact, if you get up to the 1000 + range, its hard to gain much RAW for winning a full human game, unless those humans are ranked high also.

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:26 pm
by crimsonhosking
NNgrim wrote:Crim,

Dustin recently posted in a different thread about a bug in the way RAW was being distributed, so I think the biggest problem is solved.

Im not a RAW expert by any standard, however, I notice most of those games you linked were 2 or 3 human games. Those almost never give RAW if you are ranked higher than the other one or 2 humans playing.
in fact, if you get up to the 1000 + range, its hard to gain much RAW for winning a full human game, unless those humans are ranked high also.
ah, if only I had more understanding of this strangely foreign system. Thanks for the enlightenment sir. It does become tough though when you come in 4th in a FH and lose 85 raw and then win only 28 after like 7 more wins:P