Battle of the Bronx

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Battle of the Bronx

Post by Lupus ferox » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:33 pm

adrianceng wrote:
Enzo1997 wrote:Map of bronx

looks like it could be made a map
I'll take it. But it'll need a theme. Anybody?
I can make a theme if you want.

If so, let me make the theme first before you start doing the map editor work. Any wishes on size, colors, etc? How do you want to group the territories into continents? Do you want parts of manhattan, brooklyn, Westchester county too? As active parts of the map, or just to show that the bronx isnt an island in the middle of the ocean? etc.....



It isn't ready yet.... But you get the picture.

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Post by adrianceng » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:50 pm

That is very cool!!!

Impressive! :smt051

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Post by Lupus ferox » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:52 pm

Now tell me where to put the continent borders....

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Post by adrianceng » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:28 am

http://www.thebigvoyage.com/wp-content/ ... p-copy.jpg

this picture will show crude lines with color fill in it. should make good "continents"

as for the rest of the countries i sent you a pm. Maybe it didn't work. I DON'T KNOW!!

8) :P :!:

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Post by Lupus ferox » Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:23 pm

Okay, thanks. No the pm didn't arrive...

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Post by adrianceng » Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:19 pm

I said in the pm that I mostly just wanted to show that bronx is not an island.

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Post by Lupus ferox » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:11 am

k. Working on it. Give me a few more days.
Are the parks no go area's? How to connect the islands to the main land?

Current status:

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Post by adrianceng » Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:47 pm

I thought that you could connect:

schuyerville - city island
polham bay park - city island
hart island - city island
hart island - polham bay park

P.S. The parks are "continents"

P.P.S. The little green spot underneath co-op city is part of polham bay park.

ace :smt051

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Post by Lupus ferox » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:09 pm

Well, here they are. Good luck with them. If you need help...


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Post by adrianceng » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:46 am

Her are a few screenshots of the finished map:

[/img] http://www.thebigvoyage.com/wp-content/ ... -bonus.png [img]

[/img] http://www.thebigvoyage.com/wp-content/ ... -bronx.png [img]

It is being tested by the mapLAB right now. :D
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Post by Lupus ferox » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:08 am

Looks good on the phone. I'll check later on the comp. If i were you i would set border width to zero in the preferences.
You could also try to use the colors of the graffity for the territories. There are some apps around to "grab" colors that can help you. Just a suggestion. ...
How does it play?

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Post by Lupus ferox » Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:19 am

On the lap top now... ;-)

I've made the white part of the territory borders transparent. That doesn't show up now... We have to look what has happened there. Maybe you have converted it to a jpg and then back to png......? Another thing is the foreground.... I can't see it well... Especially the 3D feel feel doesn't show up. You could move the outside borders (bordering the water) a bit. Just move them "under" the water.... That might help...

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Post by adrianceng » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:25 pm

I didn't convert it or anything. Just downloaded it. I will change the transparency. Maybe that will work.

BTW I wondered what program you used for the theme pictures(I have a mac).

ace :smt051

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Post by Lupus ferox » Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:21 am

I make every layer separately in MS Powerpoint. And I combine them in Photoshop Elements (because Powerpoint does not support transparencies well, which you need for the overground)...

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Post by adrianceng » Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:53 am

Thanks

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Post by adrianceng » Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:55 pm

The maplab reply came today. Heres what id said:

[b][i]
First i would like to welcome you to the world of map making.
I really like this map, and as a resident of New York i can relate to it.

Before we can release the map in the plugins though,
certain things need to be fixed.

First, there are a few missing connections.
All of the ones i found are are displayed with red arrows in the attachment pic to this email.

There are also some connection that should not be there and thus need to be removed (orange arrows)

Pelham Bay Park crosses over the water (as a single country) but there is no indication on the theme that it does.
My suggestion is to split it into 2 countries. If you want to keep it intact, you need to make it clear to players that it connects by adding a visual element on the theme that shows it (green arrow).

Also the black lines that connect over the water countries need to be more clear since as they are right now,
they blend with the background and are hardly distinguishable (yellow note).

There should also be a white border line added between Pelham Bay and co-op city (blue circle).

Another problem i found is that the income in many continents is really high.

Single country continents should have avg 1 bonus with 2 being the highest.
Hunts (Point) should be worth no more that 2 bonus
Riverdale no more that 3-4 (because it's easily defendable)

In all, i would look over all the incomes and try to lower the bonus in some of them.


Another minor issue.
there are some mistakes in the continent names.
Spelling:
Soundwiew -> Soundview

There are a few cases that you need to fix the lower case letters to upper case ones.
Pelham bay park -> Pelham Bay Park
Mott haven -> Mott Haven
etc

Incomplete names:
Hunts -> Hunts Point
University -> University Heights

Overall,
the spelling and naming mistakes are not crucial and won't prevent the map from being released.

The missing and bad connections as well as the theme adjustments and bonus are things that
do need to be corrected in order for the map being released.

Last but not least though, for the empty spot (starting scenario),
you need to go to the Map Info section and at the very bottom you will see a little box that says "Owner ID..."
You need to enter the number of the ID of the open land there in order players not being placed in empty land in the Starting scenario games.

If you have any questions please don't hesitate to email me with them.

Talk to you soon. [/i][/b]

There was a picture showing things that needed to be done on the theme. Here it is:

[img]https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=f ... n3po370&zw[/img]

I think maybe you could a bridge on pelham bay park. Ill take care of the spelling.

ace :smt051 [/img]
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Post by Enokrad » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:23 pm

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Adrian and Lupus should decide when it might be a good time to switch to pm's for the rest of the improvements on theme!

:facepalm

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Post by adrianceng » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:04 am

the pms does not work. Thats why we are using the forum.

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Post by Lupus ferox » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:52 am

You can reach me at lupusferox@hotmail.com

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Post by Lupus ferox » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:04 am

Hey Ace, I agree with the darkonE that Pelham park should be two separate territories. Much better for game play.....

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Post by Lupus ferox » Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:05 pm

Hey,

here is the improved file. I also increased the graphics quality a bit...

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Post by adrianceng » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:36 pm

thank you. Ill start using your email now.

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